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 Post subject: YOU WANT GOLD? YOU GOT IT!!!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:30 pm 
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Many members wonder all the time how to succeed in this game and be the best you can. As many members may know, my account was gifted to me by a certain player who because of business and real life, could no longer play actively. Similar to Katzai (Server1) getting Tawas account. I am mentioning names here as Katzai has posted about this himself and so is no secret.

The person who gave me her account was a very gracious and caring individual (and not because she gave me her account), but rather because she wanted everyone to know how to be the best they could be if they were willing to work hard for it. She posted this on the opponents own forum for even the enemies to know and she always told anyone who asked what her SECRET method for looting gold was.

Without further adieu, I now present this letter of hers in her own words and in it's entirety for ALL of the MG members to know for any server and every country world wide. She was Slovakian so the english is a wee bit off, but very understandable nontheless. I hope that this letter sheds light on the mystery of how to get powerful stats and loot much gold for everyone and I know that she would be very proud of me for sharing this with you all also.

The Secret to gaining good gold!!!

I am getting couple of PMs with questions about my stats and gold each week from all - vampires and werewolves too. I am really surprised how many people thinks, that there is no legit way to get so much gold and asking me for advices. But as I can see when I share my advices, people who get informations how to be more successful did not tell it to other members of their clans. It's really sad what are you talking about me and you do not share informations that I provided to some of your members. It seems that you should work together as a team, not that way. But let's continue. As all of you already know, gold is the only thing that matters in this game. You can be high lvl, you can have superb manhunts, but without extra looted gold, you have no chance to be one of the best fighters. Forget Highscore table which is in default ordered by loot. Let's order it by gold and you will get real "POWER" ladder table. But that's all what you already know. So the only way to get extra gold is to attack opponents. BUT ... here comes the main question ... what opponents to attack? Well, you can use random search for opponents, but as you know, it sucks. Chance to get good loot is maybe 1:100. That's not the way. But what to do then? That's true, that the only way how to find out WHO got much gold is to attack him. But it does not mean that YOU must attack him. Let the other random attack and serach for gold. Now you are asking ...But how do I know how much gold (and from what werewolves) do other vamps got? Hmmm. Well, that's hard and maybe impossible, but look at this problem from other side. How can you find out, that werewolf with name "A" lost any fight during night and how much gold did he loose? Simple. You open notepad in the evening, you look at wolf "A"'s profile, you put down his gold lost and fights lost count and in the morning you'll look at his stats again, compare them and ... ahaaaa. You can see that during night he lost for example 200gold in 2 fights. Well, so guess how much will you get when you will attack him? (100?) It's simple. And now, what is better? Use 50x random fight and get maybe 2 good loots, or look at 50 random opponents (in highscore table) in the evening, put down their lost counts and in the morning look at them again and choose just wolves who lost quite much in few fights. You just attack those (f.e.) 5 wolves and you can be sure, that you will get quite much from them. I hope you understand the main idea of that hunt-style. Selective attacking. All other is just pure cooperation.

Let's say that there are 1000 Alliance members. Let's say that you want to monitor ALL top 5000 wolves. (well, you don't need to monitor all of them, because there are some that are not worth monitoring ... like me ) So let's say 4000 wolves to keep eye on. That's just 4!!!! wolves for each member to monitor. Each Alliance member will get HIS OWN 4 wolves to check and in the morning all can share GOLD-MINES. Is that hard? NO! And be sure that you can handle much more then 4 wolves.

Ofc, you can check just once per day, or once / 2 days. It all depends how many cooperators you have.

And this is all my secret.


i've tried it and it works, you just need to be patient and needs a lot of clicking buttons

:)

Now here is what I have to offer for clarification purposes. Firstly open up notepad and start by putting the persons name. I will use myself for these examples.


{DD} Legend of Darkness

then add this from copy and paste

Defeats: 121
Draws: 1
Gold gained: 826142.00 Gold
Gold lost: 5821.00 Gold

Next, remove the unneccesary info by highlighting and deleting like this

{DD} Legend of Darkness
Defeats: 121
Gold lost: 5821.00 Gold

This is what your finished note pad entry should look like and you must also add me to your friends list for ease of comparison. Tomorrow you would click on me in your friends list and see if I lost any fights and how much I lost. If it was a lot then smash me or if not then just update the losses and gold lost and check me again tomorrow. If you have 100 people on your friends list then good! The more the merrier. I have tried this method myself and looted an average of 200 gold per hit! Try it yourself and see. Do this boring procedure during manhunts when nothing better to do and hopefully you will start enjoying the fruits of your labors within a few hours. The more often you check them the better k? If you leave it for 3 days then the stats will be skewed.

I know this was a long thread, but sorry, it had to be for everyone to understand what is going on exactly. I wish you all the best and I know my friend who perfected this method would also.

{DD} Legend of Darkness :P

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Absolute brilliance there and this is the way the game should be played :D

Thank you for adding it Vision :wink:

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Pretty hopeless for a rogue wolf to follow that advice though... :(

I'll stick to my loot list. ;)

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Clearwitch wrote:
Pretty hopeless for a rogue wolf to follow that advice though... :(

I'll stick to my loot list. ;)


Well if someone has time and the will to do it then I believe that this is the best way to loot gold from other players.

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Hmmmmmmmm..Monitering a few isn't a bad idea though...Though playing on four servers spreads your hunting time like that down.

It is wonderful infromation though. I usually look by losses and looted. Although that isn't always a sure fire way either. lol

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Well I guess the thing is Ryu, that you NEVER know who could have the 500+ gold and these are the ones you want so this method helps you find them instead of wasting so much time hitting maybe good looters.

Since each fight takes 5 minutes, sometimes you have to spend 15 minutes but it's much more profitable in the long run.

And as Clearwitch said, the old familiar method is good also. I am lazy so I still use this method most and also a good forum richlist. But when I do use the other Smart Method I loot pretty good gold and frankly, it's exciting when you check some one out and see that they lost one fight and their gold lost went from 5867 to 6341! Wow, hit that guy cuz he has some goot loot to give! :twisted:

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Thanks, I appreciate the compliment. :)

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Wow. For someone like me, who really sucks at getting gold, that post is the epitome of awesomeness. But i'm not patient enough to do all of that, and even if i was i don't have the time. Usually while i manhunt i fill the 10 minutes with other ultimately meaningless things that keep me entertained. But good advice nonetheless. Thanks. ^_^

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Its not too often I'm taken by surprise. This one is getting implemented immediately. I've never thought of doing it that way, but yet it makes so much sense.

I think this post came from karma. I was just hearing someone's concern about people adding to the clan's loot list while other's aren't, and I was trying to find a way for everyone to contribute. And here it is ^_^ Even non-premium players can keep track of 10 characters fights and loots a day haha.

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I think there's an easier way to check who has gold and who not and you can do it all by yourself and don't need thousands of other players. You just have to check the highscore correctly. :roll:


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He isn't suggesting you need 1000 players, he is suggesting the method of how to watch for gold without needing fight histories and luck.

I am applying this to one clan I am in as we speak. We have nearly 100 members, and with 10 characters assigned to each that is 1000 people being monotored daily. I am very optimistic about the results this will yield.

Think about the differences.
Currently -> All loot referals are drawn from random encounters. A player only gets to these random encounters after they go through the loot list already. About half of the loot list fights give no yield, and well over half of hte scouting after looting gives any yield.

With this system what I forsee -> A duty for many clan members for while they are doing manhunts which allows them to do their part whether they are premium or not, whether they have loads of time to fight or not, whether they are high level or not. Attacks on the list of people refered by those watching characters will have greater yield if not in amount won per fight, in will have greater yield in the amount of fights which provide good yield. Then on top of all of that, there will be more referals for clan members to go through, since there will be 1000 accounts watched daily, rather than the old hunt and peck method.

Really thank you Vision for relaying this on the forum. I would have never heard it otherwise.

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sorry but with this method your wasting time. i have a list of 150 vampires who always have between 100 and over 1000 gold. i can't even fight them all every day 'cause i don't have the time. they aren't on my list 'cause i watched them over night. you just have to look for levels you can be sure ppl are saving up gold for new weapons or armours. look at each profile and check how many gold he/she had lost in how many fights. thats how i got my list. in 80% i picked the right ones out. and you dont need so much time. while waiting your 5min you can look for the next one to attack.


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Yes, I know what you are talking about Wolverine. That is usually the method I choose also. Look for players who have lost lots of loot and hit them. But unfortunately with that method many, many other looters have the same idea so I find that i get many of them with only 30-50 gold and you can do that much just doing randoms.

With the above mentioned method you are not being picky and only attacking certain players, you are monitoring any players you wish, whether they have lost lots in the past or not and preferably in the key levels where they are going to want to purchase a new item. And as Grimnir said, 10 people to monitor for each clan member is nothing. You could check 10 of them in less than a minute or 2 with a highspeed connection.

Also, since the player who gave me her account was over 300,000 gold ahead of the next highest player, I would say that she proved hands down what the best method for looting was. But as usual, it's up to the individual which technique or method they wish to endulge, but for many players who don't really know how to get loot and especially players who are non-premium where every fight matters, they may wish to try this technique themselves. The one thing that I can't stress enough is frequency. The more you check them, the more accurate the yield will be. And as far as a richlist goes, I've had very large ones before also, but after a few days, many of them have dropped off and are broke and you are back searching again. If you have 150 members that are rich forever then good stuff, you're lucky, but usually this would not be the case.

And no problem Grim, let me know how it works for ya's. :)

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I think that is a great method !!! The tricky part is that the clan should be active and the members should do their part right.

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Here is the funny thing that I think you tried to slide by without being noticed by anyone...

By your method, Wolverine, you do not have constant monotoring. You only have their current stats. With Vision's technique (I don't know who gave it to you, so I'm attributing it to you for now) their stats are monotored. Meaning you have not only a current fights and gold account, but their previous accounts as well. When you see their loss count rise, and gold lost too, you make your attacks. When you see their loss count rise, but their gold lost does not rise, you save yourself the 5 minutes.

As for what has been done for loot lists before (Kind of a Check and Guess method) it is ridiculous compared to this. I've been on some very large loot lists, with dozens of targets in each level range. However most of the hits even on these lists do not provide yield the day after their first loss. Then you either have to keep hitting them, or hit them at random and hope you get lucky... Ridiculous.

I wonder how many accounts a single player could reasonably monotor during their manhunts... 10? 20? 5? It would be best to assign as many as you can without making the work tedious... I will start with 10. If it seems as if I am done quickly, then I will raise it to 20. 20 characters observed by 50 clan mates (for average sized clans) is 1000 monotored characters per day. That is bound to generate some hits. And plus you can take out ones which do not show activity easily as well, the ones with no loot change over days.

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Vision wrote:
And as far as a richlist goes, I've had very large ones before also, but after a few days, many of them have dropped off and are broke and you are back searching again. If you have 150 members that are rich forever then good stuff, you're lucky, but usually this would not be the case.


Sure there are always some who doesnt have any gold after a couple of days 'cause they got the weapon the wanted, but most never learn. :wink: and those who just have gold for saving up a weapon... check them when they are grown up and big enough for the next one. they will do the same as before :roll:


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